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Kill’n Stix Arrow Review

After spending two seasons shooting Kill’n Stix arrows, we are switching arrow companies for the 2019 season. I will outline the reasons why in this review.

My experience with the Kill’n Stix arrows is a bit more in-depth than just buying a dozen arrows and shooting them. We installed our own inserts, messed with weight forward, and experimented with fletching configurations on both the Original series and the Ventilator series. 

Last year, we took it a step further and used a spine tester to check straightness, spine index the arrows, and then sorted the dozens to match weight by <1 grain of difference. 

Let’s start with the standard .246’ ID Original shafts. We shot these arrows in 2017, using a 75 grain brass insert up front and then we experimented with multiple vane options, finally settling on AAE Max Stealth vanes and nocturnal lighted nocks.

With the AAE Max Hunter vanes.

These arrows sit right at 8.7 grains/inch and we cut these arrows to 29 inches, so with a standard 100 grain point our total arrow weight was 478 grains. 

The Kill’n Stix Originals price is what drove us to give them a try. We ordered the dozen fletched with blazer vanes and then stripped them off after to experiment with different vanes. A dozen of these fletched were only $164. The heavier brass inserts had to be special ordered in and I believe were around $20 for the dozen.

With these arrows, we had fairly good arrow flight and our groups were much more consistent, although a lot of that was likely due to better form and our new bows that were set up correctly. If you look closely at the photo below, the flight of the arrow has some significant wobble all the way to the target.

As far as durability, I harvest two deer with the originals and the arrows were both unharmed. Since then, I have used them as my grouse hunting arrows and have been fired into trees, stumps, and the ground multiple times and I have yet to break one.

For a good budget arrow, these did the trick for us. 

In 2018 we decided to move to a smaller diameter arrow, the Kill’n Stix Ventilator. This model is a .204’ Id arrow. We ordered these bare shaft as we already knew we were going to fletch our own arrows and this would save stripping the blazer vanes off right away. We also ordered the stainless steel half outs instead of the standard aluminum ones. 

These shafts are a bit more expensive with a dozen arrows costing around $174 for fletched arrows and the half outs I believe were $30.

After getting these arrows in, we spin tested the bare shafts to identify if one end was wobbling more than the other. We settled on cutting 3/4’ off the back end of the arrow shaft and the remaining amount off the front of the shaft. After doing this we were able to take the .003’ straightness Ventilators and cut them to our length of 28.25”, resulting in a .001” straightness arrow as we saw with a spine tester.

The next thing we did was to spine index the arrows, doing this we hang a 2 lb weight from the center of the arrow shaft and determine the stiff side and weak side of the spine and make a mark on the stiff side so that you can have the cock vane right on the spine. This allows for a consistent launch from your bow so that all its force is down the stiff portion of the spine.

Looking back on this experience, it would have been nice to have another arrow brand there to see the difference in spine consistency. As I remember it, there was a few thousandths of an inch deflection difference as we rotated the arrow. Each arrow was noticeably different with some real consistent and others as much as .01” of deflection. After seeing more arrows tested in this manner, the higher quality arrows hardly show a difference as you spin the arrow. 

This spine inconsistency was highlighted when we were trying to get our fixed blade broad heads to tune.

The next issue we had with these arrows were the inserts. The overall fit of the inserts inside the shaft was very poor, as the inserts were quite loose. A good fit would allow the insert to have some resistance going in and even without glue, the inserts would not fall out of the arrow shaft. These could almost rattle in the end of the shaft and would not stay in the shaft without glue. Due to this loose fit we had to re-glue the inserts using quite a bit more glue as they were pulling loose when shooting bag targets.

Along with the poor fit, 7 out of the 24 inserts had thread issues, so the only way to get a field tip would be to cross thread the points. This caused these arrows to spin very poorly making them unusable for a hunting arrow.

After shooting these arrows for a full year, mainly shooting into 3D targets and a Cabelas high-density foam block, only 3 of the arrows still spin true. The wobble is noticeable even without a point in the arrow, meaning you can see the outsert wobbling. Without removing the outserts and installing Easton HIIT inserts, it is tough to tell if it is the shaft itself that is also bending. My gut feeling is that it is the outserts and the potential of them being slightly off center due to the poor fit.

Overall, for a budget arrow I see no issue with the Kill’n Stix Originals, but with the poor quality components that are offered with their micro diameter shafts I would avoid their smaller diameter shafts altogether.

We like the idea of supporting a local company but with the cost of arrows we want to get more than a season out of our arrows. Our other main concern is the spine consistency, arrows that do not flex the same way cause your groups to be irregular and this is magnified when you throw a fixed blade broadhead on your arrow. With our main focus of building a reliable hunting arrow, consistency and tune-ability is critical.

Additionally, for those who are in the Calgary area, there is also no current dealer as OC archery in Airdrie has closed.

If you have any questions about this review reach out, I would love to hear about your experiences as well!!

-R

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10 Responses

  1. Peter says:

    I’ve had no luck with the Kill’n Stix either. Got half a dozen of them at a 3D shoot once as the rep was there and I was down to my last couple of arrows. Tried to get them to tune at home after the shoot with no luck. They were all over the place even at just 20 yards. I use them for my small game arrows now as I’m not as easily upset if I happen to lose a grouse vs a deer.

    • R says:

      Hi Peter,

      Thanks for reading. Unfortunate that you had that bad luck with these arrows as well. Good thing you only ran a half dozen!! I have retired mine for small game too. I really appreciate you taking the time to comment. What arrows are your normal go to?

      -R

      • Peter Chow says:

        I’ve been rocking Victory VAPs for the last few seasons. Love them! Great penetration and FOC. Very consistent spine from arrow to arrow. I just picked up 1/2 dozen of their Xtorsions to try out this coming season. Wanted something a bit heavier for elk. They’ve been shooting good so far. Fixed broadheads are flying well on them.

        • R says:

          Thats great to hear that you are experimenting with new builds! I have heard lots of positive things about Victory!

  2. Peter says:

    I’ve been rocking Victory VAPs for the last few years. They’re great! Huge penetration and FOC. Very consistent spine from arrow to arrow. Group really well. I bought half a dozen of their Xtorsions to try this season. Just wanted something a. It heavier for elk this coming season. Been flying really well with fixed blade broadheads.

  3. Buddy Spike says:

    After many test of different brands and type (aluminum, aluminium/carbon, carbon) to feed my 29″/70# Halon X-Comp set @ 67#, I stick with Easton’s Hexx 330 (7.9 grains/inch, full carbon) cut @ 28″ and loaded with 100 grains point + 75 grains brass insert. This combo performs like a sniper rig from 25 to 100 yards.
    Vanes are Blazer X2 which fly nicely and stick very well with Loctite Power Flex Gel, but must be carefully batch selected because of tremendous inconsistencies in length, height and therefore weight and surface. These inconsistencies – which appears also on regular Blazer – are the only grief I have against these vanes but it still remains unacceptable in regard of their price.

    • R says:

      Sounds like a deadly rig! Shame the blazers are so inconsistent in size and weight! I use AAE Max Stealth vanes and haven’t seen those inconsistencies!

      Thanks for reading and sharing your setup!

      • Buddy Spike says:

        Forgot to mention Hexx’s price: $142 for 12 (http://www.lancasterarchery.com/easton-hexx-arrow-shaft.html), which is really cheap in regard of super tight tolerances (straightness: ± .001″ / weight: ± 1 grain), toughness and accuracy.
        About vanes, to be honest, I had an eye on the AAE Max because being forced to sort Blazer is so time consuming that it becomes a deal-breaker for me.
        I doesn’t understand how these inconsistencies wasn’t more mentioned on forums whereas Blazer are so popular amongst hunters. The only guy I know who’ve noticed this issue was an enthusiast called “G.J.Archer” (a Navy officer, if I remember correctly) on defunct Mathews’ forums. He made a test/comparison between regular Blazer and Flex-Fletch FHP 200 Flash Vanes (https://flex-fletch.ecrater.com/p/7386556/light-orange-flash-vanes-hunting). After reading his thread, I took some Blazer, my scale, my caliper and… fell off my chair. As soon as I recover, I asked my pro-shop to order some Flash vanes. They were all perfectly identical in size and weight and flew very well but, unfortunately, stick so badly on my shafts, reason why I stayed with Blazer X2.
        I’ve read your very interesting post about homemade small game hunting points and wanted to add a comment, but… I doesn’t found how to do it, so here it is:
        I’ve also tested a lot of points and, as you, I’ve noticed that Adder points are very inaccurate. That’s because of the the small wings which are not symmetrically oriented. The trick is to pinch them perpendicularly against the tube (with great caution) and properly straighten them in the longitudinal axis with a pliers. I dropped them after testing a friend’s homemade method: a 100 grains field point with a steel washer of 15 mm (~21 grains) plus another one of 10 mm (~6 grains), both with internal diameter of ~5.4 mm. These points weight ~127 grains, so to reach near 175 grains for both training and small game arrows points, I cut the brass insert to 50 grains and use a 125 field point alone for training. The noise is indeed an issue, but only on some rabbits past 40 yards and, frankly, they’re just a tad noisiest than a Judo.

        • Buddy Spike says:

          Last thing: I’ve noticed on the picture that your Adder points are mounted upside-down (in the wrong sense) which explain their exaggerated inaccuracy at short range (20 yards).

          • R says:

            That would definitely cure up some of the erratic flight! Super weird that the packaging didn;t include proper mounting instructions. The simplified version you shared sounds great, less parts and the same ol ‘ field tips. Thanks for sharing that one, I’ll have to give them a go.

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